{"id":3551,"date":"2019-10-08T07:00:08","date_gmt":"2019-10-08T11:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/langa.com\/?p=3551"},"modified":"2019-10-02T16:16:34","modified_gmt":"2019-10-02T20:16:34","slug":"is-there-any-way-to-revive-an-over-discharged-li-ion-18650-battery","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/langa.com\/index.php\/2019\/10\/08\/is-there-any-way-to-revive-an-over-discharged-li-ion-18650-battery\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Is there any way to revive an over-discharged Li-Ion 18650 battery?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Not a good idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The protective circuitry (in the Li-ion battery or in the device that the battery powers) is designed to prevent dangerous over- and undercharging, which can cause the battery to overheat and catch fire. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Remember all those <a aria-label=\"hoverboard fires (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=hoverboard+fire&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=vid&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwi27an8mP7kAhWHQEEAHbB0BKsQ_AUIESgB&amp;biw=1920&amp;bih=935\" target=\"_blank\">hoverboard fires<\/a> a couple years ago? That&#8217;s what you get when you abuse a Li-ion battery; or its self-protections fail.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Li-ion protective circuitry requires at least a little battery power to energize itself, so a Li-ion battery typically reserves the last 3-4% of the battery charge for internal use. That way, when a low-battery condition forces the device to shut down, the battery still has enough power left to keep the protective circuitry alive and ready to accept the next recharge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But if the battery is drained so far that the protective circuitry goes dead, the inert circuitry prevents normal recharging &#8212; a &#8220;fail safe&#8221; measure to ensure that the battery can&#8217;t be recharged without the protective circuitry alive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So: When a Li-ion battery won&#8217;t accept a charge, it&#8217;s no longer safe to use.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"241\" height=\"256\" data-attachment-id=\"3571\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/langa.com\/index.php\/2019\/10\/08\/is-there-any-way-to-revive-an-over-discharged-li-ion-18650-battery\/18650-batteries\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/langa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/18650-batteries.jpg?fit=241%2C256&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"241,256\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"18650 batteries\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/langa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/18650-batteries.jpg?fit=241%2C256&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/langa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/18650-batteries.jpg?resize=241%2C256&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3571\"\/><figcaption>Standardized &#8220;18650&#8221; sized Li-ion cells\/batteries are used in a huge variety of applications from e-automobile power packs, to flashlights. <\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Can you get around it? Maybe, with the right tools and knowledge. But you\u2019re asking for trouble: Again, remember those hoverboard fires?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Besides, why would you take the risk? Individual 18650-sized Li-ion batteries\/cells aren&#8217;t expensive: The ones in the photo above cost about $6 each, and last for hundreds and hundreds of recharges.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is it worth risking a fire to save $6?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align:right\" class=\"has-small-font-size\"><em><strong>Permalink: <a href=\"https:\/\/langa.com\/?p=3551\">https:\/\/langa.com\/?p=3551<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"104\" height=\"6\" data-attachment-id=\"1999\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/langa.com\/index.php\/2019\/02\/10\/around-boston-the-nearly-snowless-winter-continues\/seperator-short-grey\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/langa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SEPERATOR-short-grey.png?fit=104%2C6&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"104,6\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"SEPERATOR short grey\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/langa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SEPERATOR-short-grey.png?fit=104%2C6&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/langa.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SEPERATOR-short-grey.png?resize=104%2C6\" alt=\"[seperator]\" class=\"wp-image-1999\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align:left\"><strong>COMMENT \/ QUESTION<\/strong>  on <strong>THIS ITEM?<\/strong> <em>See the<\/em> <strong>Comment box<\/strong> <em>at bottom of this page!<\/em><br><b><em><br><\/em>NEW QUESTION? <\/b><em>Ask<\/em><b> <u><font color=\"#000117\"><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/langa.com\/index.php\/contact\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a><\/font><\/u><\/b>!<br><br>(<em>Want free notification of new content? 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That&#8217;s what you get when you abuse a Li-ion&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[7,30,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3551","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-a-reader-asks","category-hardware","category-smartphones"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paaiox-Vh","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2505,"url":"https:\/\/langa.com\/index.php\/2019\/04\/08\/how-to-make-lithium-ion-batteries-last-for-years\/","url_meta":{"origin":3551,"position":0},"title":"How to make lithium-ion batteries last for years","author":"Fred Langa","date":"2019-04-08","format":false,"excerpt":"The older column reprinted below was originally published in the August 13, 2015 , Windows Secrets newsletter. 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